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Benvinguts a la nostra Taverna, el lloc de trobada virtual dels usuaris del Viccionari. Ací parlem sobre afers que concerneixen a tothom, però, si teniu alguna cosa a dir específicament sobre un article o un usuari, si us plau, feu servir la seva respectiva pàgina de discussió. Podeu llegir i contestar les converses ja iniciades (pitjant en "editar" al costat dret del títol de cadascuna de les converses).

Si us plau, per a evitar malentesos, signeu sempre els vostres missatges al final de la vostra intervenció amb el codi --~~~~. Podeu signar també pitjant el desé botó de la barra d'edició de la pàgina "edita". Per a converses inactives o antigues de la Taverna, consulteu el magatzem de converses de la Taverna, des del qual podeu tornar a portar-lo ací si voleu reprendre'n cap. Sobre qüestions específiques del funcionament de la Taverna aneu a la seua respectiva pàgina de discussió.


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Do you use Wikidata in Wikimedia sibling projects? Tell us about your experiences[modifica]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English.

Hello, the Wikidata for Wikimedia Projects team at Wikimedia Deutschland would like to hear about your experiences using Wikidata in the sibling projects. If you are interested in sharing your opinion and insights, please consider signing up for an interview with us in this Registration form.
Currently, we are only able to conduct interviews in English.

The front page of the form has more details about what the conversation will be like, including how we would compensate you for your time.

For more information, visit our project issue page where you can also share your experiences in written form, without an interview.
We look forward to speaking with you, Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Reusing references: Can we look over your shoulder?[modifica]

Apologies for writing in English.

The Technical Wishes team at Wikimedia Deutschland is planning to make reusing references easier. For our research, we are looking for wiki contributors willing to show us how they are interacting with references.

  • The format will be a 1-hour video call, where you would share your screen. More information here.
  • Interviews can be conducted in English, German or Dutch.
  • Compensation is available.
  • Sessions will be held in January and February.
  • Sign up here if you are interested.
  • Please note that we probably won’t be able to have sessions with everyone who is interested. Our UX researcher will try to create a good balance of wiki contributors, e.g. in terms of wiki experience, tech experience, editing preferences, gender, disability and more. If you’re a fit, she will reach out to you to schedule an appointment.

We’re looking forward to seeing you, Thereza Mengs (WMDE)

Vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee[modifica]

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Hello all,

I am reaching out to you today to announce that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter is now open. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll now through 2 February 2024. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.

The current version of the U4C Charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.

Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 19:09, 19 gen 2024 (CET)Respon

Campanya a xarxes: el mot preferit en català[modifica]

Hola!

Com sabeu, porto el compte del Viccionari a X amb l'objectiu de donar a conèixer el projecte i incrementar-ne les visites (i, si es pot, captar nous editors). A dia d'avui som la versió lingüística del Viccionari amb més seguidors, impacte i activitat a X.

Per tal d'incrementar aquest impacte he pensat en encetar una campanya similar a "Busquem la paraula preferida en català" que, per mitjà d'un sistema d'enquestes eliminatòries, serveixi per triar quin és el mot preferit de la gent. L'objectiu, evidentment, no és trobar la paraula sinó les lectures i difusió del projecte que guanyarem pel camí, juntament amb poder fer una crida a la millora de les entrades relatives a les paraules en competició.

Voldria saber quina és la opinió de la comunitat viccionaire (sé que som poquets, essencialment Vriullop, ‎Pablussky, ‎Arnaugir, ‎Dafne07, ‎Brunnaiz, ‎Limotecariu i un servidor —disculpeu si em deixo a algú) sobre la proposta. En cas que no hi hagi objeccions, faria també una nota de premsa per si cap diari, web o publicació se'n vol fer ressó (la compartiré també perquè hi feu les aportacions que cregueu pertinents).

Espero els vostres comentaris i crítiques. Salut,

--Pau Colominas (discussió) 19:10, 26 gen 2024 (CET)Respon

Em sembla correcte i crec que pot atreure molta atenció. Endavant! -- Brunnaiz (discussió) 19:21, 26 gen 2024 (CET)Respon
A mí també em sembla bé.--Dafne07 (discussió) 14:51, 27 gen 2024 (CET)Respon
A mi també Limotecariu (discussió) 16:05, 27 gen 2024 (CET)Respon
Hi ha hagut alguna campanya d'aquest tipus, per exemple Les 10 paraules més boniques del català de gencat. Recordo algunes crítiques per part de lingüistes per no delimitar uns criteris massa subjectius, una barreja de sonoritat, significat únic, originalitat sense cognats... Ho dic per si es pot millorar o aportar alguna novetat en el joc, i que ara no se m'acut. Vriullop (discussió) 12:07, 29 gen 2024 (CET)Respon
@Vriullop: Sí, justament per això havia pensat en enfocar-ho com a preferida i no com a més bonica. S'entén que el criteri és subjectiu (per això enquestes obertes i no criteris lingüístics). Si teniu cap idea de com enfocar-ho com a alternativa a preferida, soc obert a propostes. --Pau Colominas (discussió) 09:14, 2 feb 2024 (CET)Respon
Per mi també! Pablussky (discussió) 20:14, 30 gen 2024 (CET)Respon

Last days to vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee[modifica]

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Hello all,

I am reaching out to you today to remind you that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) charter will close on 2 February 2024. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.

The current version of the U4C charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.

Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 18:01, 31 gen 2024 (CET)Respon

Pronunciació de voluta[modifica]

Hola! He vist que a l'entrada en català de voluta no ix la pronúncia per algun problema amb el mòdul. Jo no entenc d'açò, però us ho dic per si podeu fer-li una ullada. Gràcies! Pablussky (discussió) 18:16, 1 feb 2024 (CET)Respon

Corregit. Últimament estic fent una sèrie de revisions a ca-pron, per automatitzar casos no previstos i fer-ho tot més senzill. Aquest matí no he acabat de fer totes les comprovacions abans de desar. Vriullop (discussió) 19:52, 1 feb 2024 (CET)Respon

Announcing the results of the UCoC Coordinating Committee Charter ratification vote[modifica]

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Dear all,

Thank you everyone for following the progress of the Universal Code of Conduct. I am writing to you today to announce the outcome of the ratification vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter. 1746 contributors voted in this ratification vote with 1249 voters supporting the Charter and 420 voters not. The ratification vote process allowed for voters to provide comments about the Charter.

A report of voting statistics and a summary of voter comments will be published on Meta-wiki in the coming weeks.

Please look forward to hearing about the next steps soon.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 19:24, 12 feb 2024 (CET)Respon

Report of the U4C Charter ratification and U4C Call for Candidates now available[modifica]

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Hello all,

I am writing to you today with two important pieces of information. First, the report of the comments from the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter ratification is now available. Secondly, the call for candidates for the U4C is open now through April 1, 2024.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members are invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Per the charter, there are 16 seats on the U4C: eight community-at-large seats and eight regional seats to ensure the U4C represents the diversity of the movement.

Read more and submit your application on Meta-wiki.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 17:25, 5 març 2024 (CET)Respon

Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2024 Selection[modifica]

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Dear all,

This year, the term of 4 (four) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Board Governance Committee created a Board Selection Working Group from Trustees who cannot be candidates in the 2024 community- and affiliate-selected trustee selection process composed of Dariusz Jemielniak, Nataliia Tymkiv, Esra'a Al Shafei, Kathy Collins, and Shani Evenstein Sigalov [3]. The group is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2024 trustee selection process, and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

  • May 2024: Call for candidates and call for questions
  • June 2024: Affiliates vote to shortlist 12 candidates (no shortlisting if 15 or less candidates apply) [5]
  • June-August 2024: Campaign period
  • End of August / beginning of September 2024: Two-week community voting period
  • October–November 2024: Background check of selected candidates
  • Board's Meeting in December 2024: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2024 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page, and make your plan.

Election Volunteers

Another way to be involved with the 2024 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page.

Best regards,

Dariusz Jemielniak (Governance Committee Chair, Board Selection Working Group)

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Results#Elected

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes:2023-08-15#Governance_Committee

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] Even though the ideal number is 12 candidates for 4 open seats, the shortlisting process will be triggered if there are more than 15 candidates because the 1-3 candidates that are removed might feel ostracized and it would be a lot of work for affiliates to carry out the shortlisting process to only eliminate 1-3 candidates from the candidate list.

MPossoupe_(WMF)20:57, 12 març 2024 (CET)Respon

La vostra wiki estarà aviat només en mode lectura[modifica]

Trizek (WMF), 01:00, 15 març 2024 (CET)Respon

Plantilla es.v.conj.iar[modifica]

Hola! Crec que n'hi ha una errada a la plantilla es.v.conj.iar. A la segona persona del present d'indicatiu, crec que la forma per a voseo hauria de ser [1]iás en compte de [1]ás, ja que el que s'ha d'introduir com a primer paràmetre és sense la i. Com està ara, queden conjugacions errònies com ara lás (i no liás) o acaricás (i no acariciás). Pablussky (discussió) 23:53, 14 abr 2024 (CEST)Respon

Corregit. Però en el cas del verb "liar" resulta monosíl·lab i, per tant, sense accent: lias. Corregit també l'accent en el subjuntiu per una llista de casos: ciar, fiar, chiar, liar, miar, piar, criar i guiar. Vriullop (discussió) 08:17, 15 abr 2024 (CEST)Respon
Tens raó! No havia caigut en l'accent, soles estava pensant en la i. Moltes gràcies, Vicenç! El mateix passarà amb l'imperatiu, que no porta pas tilde, per si ho pots canviar també per al monosíl·labs. Pablussky (discussió) 16:14, 15 abr 2024 (CEST)Respon
Ostres, també el passat, i aquest surt en l'encapçalament. Arreglat, això és un lio. Vriullop (discussió) 20:20, 15 abr 2024 (CEST)Respon

Primera documentació[modifica]

Hola! Tinc un dubte, disculpeu-me si ja ha estat resolt abans enlloc. Normalment en l'etimologia d'un mot es fa constar la data de la primera documentació, a la manera del Gran diccionari de la llengua catalana. El dubte em sorgeix arran de la paraula emfitèutic, que en aquesta forma, com diu el GDLC, apareix per primera volta al Gazophylacium catalano-latinum (1696), però que com a mínim ja apareix en una entrada de 1286 del llibre de cort de justícia de València sota la forma emphiteòtich o emfiteòtic (Diéguez, Maria Àngels. El llibre de cort de justícia de València (1279-1321). Estudi lingüístic, 310.). Per tant, a l'etimologia de emfitèutic, caldria dir «1696» o «segle XIII» (o abans)? --MrPotato1010 (discussió) 20:22, 22 abr 2024 (CEST)Respon

@MrPotato1010 Això és com formenterer o formenterenc, són sinònims, de la mateixa arrel, amb diferents sufixos, diferent etimologia, potser diferent data i història. En principi la data de documentació hauria de ser la que correspon a l'entrada i l'etimologia, incloent-hi variants ortogràfiques però no formals. Entenc aquí la paradoxa d'un concepte feudal documentat molt tard. Es pot explicar alguna cosa com "1696 amb variants en català antic emfiteòtic, emfiteuticari". Pot servir el Coromines (b 23-33) que documenta emfiteusi, emfiteuta i emfitèutic en Lacavalleria, però indica les variants anteriors. Si es vol referenciar el Coromines, es pot incloure en {{ca-dicc}} el paràmetre "decat". Vriullop (discussió) 07:40, 23 abr 2024 (CEST)Respon

Vote now to select members of the first U4C[modifica]

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Dear all,

I am writing to you to let you know the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open now through May 9, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 22:21, 25 abr 2024 (CEST)Respon

Hi ha alguna plantilla per afegir sinònims només a una sola accepció?[modifica]

Estic fent entrades en suec i de vegades m'agradaria poder afegir sinònims a una sola de les diferents accepcions que pot tenir una paraula (en comptes de fer una secció a part de ==== Sinònims ==== ). Gràcies! Musrar (discussió) 21:18, 30 abr 2024 (CEST)Respon

@Musrar No tenim aplicat el format anglès amb els sinònims i antònims sota cada accepció. El format recomanat és
{{-sin-}}
* {{q|glossa}} {{e|sv|sinònim}}, ...
amb una glossa que identifiqui l'accepció, si n'hi ha més d'una. En molts casos encara està pendent d'identificar els sinònims amb cada accepció. Vriullop (discussió) 08:37, 2 maig 2024 (CEST)Respon
Entesos, gràcies. Com a glossa, doncs, què va bé? 1#? 1? 1a accepció? O bé el significat del mot? Musrar (discussió) 10:39, 2 maig 2024 (CEST)Respon
Millor que no siguin números, que poden variar. En aquest cas pot ser la traducció, per exemple com śuko. Vriullop (discussió) 11:33, 2 maig 2024 (CEST)Respon

Sign up for the language community meeting on May 31st, 16:00 UTC[modifica]

Hello all,

The next language community meeting is scheduled in a few weeks - May 31st at 16:00 UTC. If you're interested, you can sign up on this wiki page.

This is a participant-driven meeting, where we share language-specific updates related to various projects, collectively discuss technical issues related to language wikis, and work together to find possible solutions. For example, in the last meeting, the topics included the machine translation service (MinT) and the languages and models it currently supports, localization efforts from the Kiwix team, and technical challenges with numerical sorting in files used on Bengali Wikisource.

Do you have any ideas for topics to share technical updates related to your project? Any problems that you would like to bring for discussion during the meeting? Do you need interpretation support from English to another language? Please reach out to me at ssethi(__AT__)wikimedia.org and add agenda items to the document here.

We look forward to your participation!

MediaWiki message delivery 23:23, 14 maig 2024 (CEST)Respon

Feedback invited on Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle[modifica]

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Dear community members,

The Community Affairs Committee (CAC) of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees invites you to give feedback on a draft Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle. This draft Procedure outlines proposed steps and requirements for opening and closing Wikimedia Sibling Projects, and aims to ensure any newly approved projects are set up for success. This is separate from the procedures for opening or closing language versions of projects, which is handled by the Language Committee or closing projects policy.

You can find the details on this page, as well as the ways to give your feedback from today until the end of the day on June 23, 2024, anywhere on Earth.

You can also share information about this with the interested project communities you work with or support, and you can also help us translate the procedure into more languages, so people can join the discussions in their own language.

On behalf of the CAC,

RamzyM (WMF) 04:26, 22 maig 2024 (CEST)Respon